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August 11, 2017

To the editor: With the rolled out of the ACA in 2009 the state of Florida was offered $10 billion over 10 years for the Medicaid expansion....

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allenwoll

Aug-19-17 1:31 PM

Just how does it come to be a "glaring flaw" for any ONE dollar of income to bear the same burden for the people's HealthCare as any OTHER dollar of income ? ?

To the contrary, such is a simple and effective device to assure equality and fairness among and between all people.

Well, Yes, The X-Cfd does NOT always see entirely clearly owing to all that nasty GoPer-PoliMud that keeps getting kicked up in his little, shallow pond ! !

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allenwoll

Aug-18-17 12:08 PM

Re : National HealthCare Financing Pool --

The very EPITOME of fairness is to require each income dollar over the poverty level to pay the same share of the HealthCare cost of the Nation. . That way, EVERYONE feels equal pain.

If you disagree, explain yourself ! !

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allenwoll

Aug-17-17 3:33 PM

antico -- As I have long been saying, The Trumpet Daffodil is but SYMPTOMATIC of our problems dealing with this Nation.

Now Pogo, the Okefenokee Philospher has said long ago and many times : "We have met the enemy and he is us ! !"

Walt Kelly, the creator of "Pogo", somehow came to better understand the politics and the people of this Nation long, LONG before anyone else has come even close ! !

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anticorp

Aug-16-17 9:27 PM

allen - Such a disturbing summation of the status of the American intellect.

It is horrible to see it articulated so emphatically and leaves me with such shame for my people. It leaves me in despair knowing it is true.

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allenwoll

Aug-16-17 5:21 PM

ooops ! -- Andersen

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allenwoll

Aug-16-17 5:19 PM

antico -- See "How America Went Haywire, Kurt Anbdersen, The Atlantic, Sept, 2017.

It is all well explained there.

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anticorp

Aug-16-17 4:54 PM

Still no second thoughts on your choice for President, people?

""Rather than putting pressure on the businesspeople of the Manufacturing Council & Strategy & Policy Forum, I am ending both. Thank you all!" -- Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump "

You have to be thinking you elected a crazy man.

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anticorp

Aug-16-17 4:54 PM

Still no second thoughts on your choice for President, people?

""Rather than putting pressure on the businesspeople of the Manufacturing Council & Strategy & Policy Forum, I am ending both. Thank you all!" -- Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump "

You have to be thinking you elected a crazy man.

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allenwoll

Aug-16-17 8:39 AM

OK, X-Cfd, et al : You wanted debate -- I have just placed a question before you : WHAT do you say ? ?

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allenwoll

Aug-15-17 9:23 PM

The thought process of the X-Cfd baffles me ! !

What is the value of a given round of HealthCare to the patient ? Would not a wealthy person place a much, MUCH higher figure on that than a destitute person.

The answer is obvious -- So why should the charge for the same round of HealthCare for each not follow a similar rule ?

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DOAshrimp

Aug-15-17 7:40 PM

Your hc pool u propose is flawed for one glaring reason... Its based on getting those evil rich people...and getting them to pay for all the free riders. Like me getting my ins cancelled (BCBS)due to O'Sharptoncare..so the uninsured could get insurance...and then I get to help pay for theirs...now that I'm uninsured...and in the end millions still left uninsured. Can anyone actually defend this policy? Any libby fool? Please? The hc policy is just silly. Good try though.

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DOAshrimp

Aug-15-17 4:29 PM

A secret Mr. Wollschdts...(this one sailed over your head so I'll help you as it tough to see old peoples minds fail)...See Mr Wollschdtsd..most understand u are very sick...not looking to exchange ideas...just looking for a "fight" while hiding safely in bathrobe and slippers. Folks just don't want to engage with u cause they know its impossible. On top of that...the incredibly obnoxious ankle biter attitude due to your deep delusions of superiority.. Well...It is a riot as u just can't help yourself I agree...lolol.. not sure if its a severe need for attention or your imagined way of getting back at the bullies in the school yard of life...but the anger, resentments, and jealousies are very deep very visible as u lash out at everyone. Yes Mr W.... We all love Ins Companies, can't add, and you should pick who votes...right? Good ..I thought so.

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anticorp

Aug-15-17 4:09 PM

janet99 - I’m comfortable in my manhood and see no point in exchanging veiled epithets w/u faith based facts people. My point was right to it on the GOP’s enabling of the Insurance companies. U could PROVE me wrong by naming some that would support Single Payer or even Medicare for all and allowing the vulture gate keepers to sell their Advantage Plans that rip u off for a price for 20% of the responsibility that is more expensive than the 80% of costs by basic Medicare A&B.

You won’t though, because u know the entire elected GOP is part of the pay to play (acting as citizen representation) corruption.

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allenwoll

Aug-15-17 2:06 PM

Pkr -- Have you noticed : The Little Righties give a blanket "Disagree" to the idea of an H-C Financing Pool -- But then they state not even ONE SPECIFIC objection ? ? . Why do they seem to LOVE insurance companies so deeply ? ? ?

I suppose that I should have held the math down to Second Grade instead of Third Grade -- These folk are adults ? ? ? -- Yeah, Chronologically, but little trace of anything else at all ! ! !

WORSE, we allow them to vote ! ! !

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janet99

Aug-15-17 1:15 PM

anticorp I will gladly, when you can ask a non-cowardly, non loaded, question that assumes something is true when in fact it's obviously not true. That's the mark of a sneaky obnoxious lib coward anti and certainly not a question. Behest of the "entire" GOP? That's not accurate in the least and it shows your mental illness again. Spoon fed FOX? wrong again as I rarely watch TV. Assuming again? Corporate corruption? Of course there is. Is there a point? You assume everything and do so with a false sense of "victory" and faux superiority. Opinions are like a******* anti, everyone has one. I represent the opinion side of the idiom. You? It's obvious to all - but you. Attack you? Of course, you are the enemy of my country. Why wouldn't I? When you ever learn how to man up, gather a few remaining wits - then ask. Otherwise anti I don't waste time on obviously very ill and oh soo sneaky chronically lying lib fools as yourself.

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anticorp

Aug-15-17 9:59 AM

janet99

I speak to an issue. You’re free to avoid it – attack the messenger instead. We see u though. The issue is the patronage of the Insurance toll takers at the behest of the entire GOP (and some Dems as well). I opened a door for u to know something based of evidence as opposed to your faith based beliefs spoon fed u by Fox. The facts about corporate corruption are there to see. Ignore them at your peril. It matters not to me. I’m a vet with the “Best Health Care Everywhere”(no corporate insurance involved) .

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allenwoll

Aug-14-17 8:37 PM

j99 -- Whenever one of our li'l Righties like you is so careless as to allow itself to encounter face-to-face a Verifiable FACT, you can hear it from the next county screaming in terrified anguish ! ! !

Reality encountered after a steady diet of GoPer-Goulash with Fictitious Trimmings REALLY pains them so terribly ! ! !

So saaaaaaaad ! !

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janet99

Aug-14-17 7:44 PM

Well Mr. anticorp, I'm not sure what you mean as I wasn't addressing you or your rants? Instead of using your raving nonsense to somehow cowardly poke at me from around the corner while hiding behind your **** stained keyboard, ask me directly. As a woman I don't have testicles which is a genetic trait we both obviously share. Mr. anticorp, in the meantime stop embarrassing yourself. Most realized long ago you are a terminal fool, no need to reinforce everyone's spot on observations. The fact that no one but the other resident lib nutcase ever agrees with you sums you up, 100% Just saying. Got a question? Man up. A new experience for you.

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allenwoll

Aug-14-17 5:36 PM

antico -- Please comment on my suggestion for an "Insurance-Free" National Universal HealthCare Financing Pool for the U S A.

So far, the Righties seem to be avoiding looking at it.

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anticorp

Aug-14-17 4:33 PM

Read for yourself janet99

*******fortune****/2014/10/20/health-insurance-future/

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anticorp

Aug-14-17 4:30 PM

Substance enough for your janet99?

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anticorp

Aug-14-17 4:28 PM

Unproductive costs of your health care are at least duplicated at the insurance company (460,000 employed by insurance industry doing nothing for your health care). In 2012 more people were being hired in the health insurance industry than to deliver health care. In 1 company in Ca. the top 11 executives were paid 19 million dollars. How many diseases did they cure? The ACA mandated insurers spend at least 80% of their premiums on medical care. Obviously insurers had overhead rates in excess of 20%. All of this seems expensive and wasteful, and it is.”

Health insurers receive payments from employers, individuals, and governments and then send that money to health care providers such as pharmacy benefits managers, doctors, and hospitals, of course keeping some to cover overhead and a profit. Free market in action – good?

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allenwoll

Aug-14-17 4:24 PM

My-O-My ! ! --

What a HOLD the Health Insurance concept has on us : Only ONE person reacted to my suggestion to do away with the Insurance Companies and go straight to a NON-Profit, NON-Gov POOL ! ! ! . NO MORE SKIM ! ! !

In my scheme, every dollar of income from ALL/ANY sources above poverty pay the SAME freight toward Universal HealthCare within our present private medical system.

This approach automatically spreads the burden equitably among all.

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anticorp

Aug-14-17 3:51 PM

Ever wonder why your 20% of your Medicare costs for deductibles and copays costs more than your basic Medicare (80%) coverage. I'm speaking to Medicare Advantage to cover your copays and deductibles (20%). Insurance toll takers are making billions to cover those.

Just as bad is their very presence in the system runs up the cost of medical care proper because you doctors must have “a full-time employee who spends all day on the phone talking to insurance companies (or waiting on hold to speak to them) to get authorization to deliver medical care. This is typical of most medical offices, particularly for specialists, who confront endless forms, prior authorizations, and other manifestations of the corporate bureaucracy. And then there are the other people doctors and hospitals have to hire to hound the insurance companies for payment once the care is delivered.”

Only in America.

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anticorp

Aug-14-17 12:31 PM

If we only knew..

“Traditional Medicare overhead amounts are about 2 percent of the program’s expenditures. That figure sharply contrasts with the 12% to 14% overhead typical of private health insurance companies. Much of Medicare’s overhead is payments to a small handful of insurance giants that are essentially monopolies that derive much of their revenue from the government that pays hundreds of billions annually in premiums for private ‘Medicare Advantage’ plans, Medicaid managed care plans, and much of the premiums for the private plans bought on [ACA] exchanges. Most of this money is wasted; Anthem and Cigna have overhead that’s nearly tenfold higher than traditional Medicare and 30–40% higher than the overhead on regular private health insurance for those with no other coverage.” James Crowley, Retired MD after 40 years, Navy

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