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Now they have filed suit against us to get more of our money

October 25, 2013

To the editor: First they said they needed $20 million in new taxes or 517 City employees and the City programs they support will be eliminated, the City would grind to a halt and the sky would fall....

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Oct-28-13 6:12 AM

Hey anticorp...kiss my ***!!! I'm a conservative, and because I don't agree with this mayor doesn't mean I agree with you. Keep blaming everyone else for your shortfalls, that's the Obama way!!

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Oct-26-13 10:12 PM

Gone are the days when you had a choice in Florida.

They're both Republican scum right? All the cuts in pay and benefits to Fire and Police, all the money wasted on corporate cronies at Hertz, two wealthy sports team owners and Jackson Labs, the dredging of Miami ports (should have been Jacksonville) without rail connection, turning down billions of our tax dollars back for a rail system and Medicaid expansion. It goes on and on…..

Republicans are in charge of the Crony Capitalism in Florida. Watch them try to sell out the working class Floridians to the Electric Utilities to cover their boondoggles with nuclear power as Solar eats their lunch. They need to kill the cheaper clean solar threat to their business model.

Dirty centralized energy is just as inefficient as the urban sprawl model being followed by Cape Coral.

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Oct-26-13 4:00 PM

CCC, I doubt Dimbulb qualifies for an AMEX card.

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Oct-26-13 3:59 PM

CCC, what happened with Civic and the Witch of Bergen County? I was out of town, and missed it.

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Oct-26-13 3:22 PM


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Oct-26-13 1:04 PM

@Litwitch: is the string of numbers you posted below your AMEX credit card number or tonight's winning Power Ball number?

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Oct-26-13 9:48 AM

Leetz is only confirming who he really is and was in the past while in the Air Force. Only there, he didn't get away with it and now he has "matured" and "become educated enough" to know how to get others blamed. Cunning, but needs to go away and play in some other playpen.

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Oct-26-13 9:27 AM

Some millage rate discussion here. At a candidate forum Leetz objected to the FST, vowed to fight it. Leetz solution, take the millage rate to it's max, 10.0. He and Sullivan are on the same page, you really want to vote for 10.0 millage ?

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Oct-26-13 4:52 AM

What I don't understand is Mr. Mars is supposed to be a brilliant financial mind, if he is, then why doesn't he know about the process of a bond validation and what it entails. This was simply a necessary step in the legal process, nothing ore, nothing less. The more time goes by, the more it is becoming painfully obvious that not even one of the Roadies had the experience they claim to have had. How scary is it to remember they once ran the city?

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Oct-25-13 5:34 PM

Lee Mars... Your arrogance clearly out weighs your intelligence. Council made an extremely wise decision bouncing you out with the rest of the RAGS. What a sorry excuse for scare tactics the Bond Validation hearing was just that... A bond validation hearing.

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Oct-25-13 12:15 PM

ccrider: All this talk about a mil reduction is a joke to me and other 100% disabled Veterans. We will be paying the full FSA and get no benefit of a mil reduction because the FSA is non ad valorem. We earned the benefits that the state has given us, and now some want to chip away at it. Most of us are living on fixed incomes, which are not that high.

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Oct-25-13 11:41 AM


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Oct-25-13 11:11 AM

I'll believe it when it is printed on a TRIM. I have heard reductions of 2mil, then 1mil and finally 1/4 of a mil before.

I want you to hold your breath while the pension saving over 25 years really happens. The council, city manager and many of the tax payers won't be here to see it if it ever happened. Saving to come at the the back end of 25 years? Like I stated, hold your breath!

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Oct-25-13 11:10 AM

This letter was an interesting presentation of what is happening, although it strays a bit from the truth. Per Chapter 75 of the Florida Statutes, a bond validation is pursued to identify any legal issues that might arise with the issuance of a bond. The City was advised by its bond council to pursue the usage of the Statute due to its support of the proposed usage of the FAF to determine legal certainty prior to issuing the bond. The City did not have to take this approach, but, if used and the courts validate the bond, the market for the bond improves significantly and the overall expense could be reduced due to its prequalification. The filing of the suit against the residents of the City and against the State is what is required by this chapter of the Statutes to bring this to the legal system for adjudication, nothing more. Whether you agree with the FAF as a funding source is not the point. The legal appropriateness of the bond is, and that is what the court must decide.

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Oct-25-13 10:58 AM

LS- Regarding the millage rate, the .25 reduction this year is to be followed by a minimum .75 reduction next year. In the original proposal, additional mil rate reduction amounts were anticipated for next year and the year after, in an additive manner, based upon the hoped for results of the FAF and PST receipt amounts. The GF projections are based upon the receipts of all of the various funding sources, and it is projected that the ad valorem component will be reduced as a percentage of the whole.

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Oct-25-13 9:43 AM


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Oct-25-13 9:20 AM

The whole things comes down to borrowing more money.

The millage rate is 7.01 allowing future budgets to escalate 2.99 points.

the general fund projections are

this year 2013 $million 142 2014 151 2015 171 2016 175

Watch what happens moving FORWARD with the millage rate. The only thing controlling it is the new taxes are not being figured against real estate tax. We just pay a separate bill not as the ad valorem. BASICALLY JUST A LIE TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT THE CITY IS CONDUCTING ITS BUSINESS UNDER TH STATE LAW. How ever adding the non ad valorem Taxes Storm Water Tax, Electric Utility Tax, and Fire Assessment Tax and we are right up againts the 10 point ceiling if not over it. Cheaters lie and liars cheat!

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Oct-25-13 8:54 AM

@ Mars - So, where is the Kitchen Cabinet meeting these days? Always enjoyed knowing where the 2 for 1s were being served at happy hour.

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Oct-25-13 7:07 AM

If the bond validation hearing had nothing to do with the fire service assessment, then how do you explain that only testimony was allowed concerning the assessment? Besides that. Why do we need to float a bond against the assessment funds? Why go into more debt, instead of waiting for the money to be collected, if the judge rules in favor of the city?

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Oct-25-13 4:53 AM

Lee Mars: you are recklessly showing your ignorance. The bond validation had nothing to do with the fire service fee. And if you had half a brain you would know that! Thank god you are no longer on the Financial Advisory Committee to ignorantly continue to harm out city! By all means, vote for Headd, who cannot understand that his ‘plans’ for the Golf Club are for property the city does NOT OWN! Nor did Headd know what a TIF was concerning the CRA. Leetz tonight was accused of ranting that he owned a permit to carry a concealed weapon, that he had many unreported threats to him and his property and that he “knew how to use his gun and provoke people and get away with it.” The very fact that the Chief of Police documented their conversation and his concerns about same should terrify anyone who approaches Leetz in public! Yeah, by all means lets vote for HIM! Not.

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