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Some facts on Conservation 20/20

June 27, 2013

To the editor: In his recent letter to the editor, Sal Grosso writes that the public should receive additional facts about Conservation 20/20....

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Jul-06-13 1:37 PM

Lee County is not a leader county nor should it be with the type of capacity it has to lead the way.

But it should be mentioned Collier not a true example of a virtuous leader either. They did have the mental capacity to sunset there Land Conservation Tax.

The most interesting thing they are a much wealthier county per capita than LEE.

Why do we have such simple minded pols running this county.

Maybe it is not that they are simple but that they, their family, or close friends are in the ownership of those lands that are being preserved at public expense.

Why has NO land ever been preserved? Probably the wrong people hold the land?

I guess Lee told the state of Florida. "We promise not to pay a much as 4 times the cost on various parcels...anymore!

There are crooks and they are not all being chased by the Sheriff!

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Jul-03-13 6:40 AM

Keep spouting those fantasies. What he claimed about the UEP was criminal behavior, fraud, and gross overpricing. To date no one has been found guilty of any of the accusations, and $260,000 in AUDITS later...nothing has been found, nada, nyet. There is your fact.

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Jul-02-13 10:58 AM

Mr. Grosso was so wrong in what he has pointed out about the unrestricted spending by the city of Cape Coral for so many years.

Thus we can now see he was correct in his findings from a city that built a superstructure way beyond its needs and and its means.

He pointed out FACT that the water and sewer project in Cape Coral was mismanaged, overpriced, poorly financed. Thus a large contractor MWH called in to oversee what the city had botched on the second phase. It certainly was not Grosso that changed the created a change from MWH to now a third management approach in the third round of developing this UEP. Go back, read the microfilms from the Breeze on the screw ups of a city over its head with poor management, over paid staff who didn't have the capability to change a washer let alone oversee or perform a task like the UEP. Yeah, Sal Grosso had no facts thus he guessed and got it correct the city dug themselves a financial hole they still may not get out of. City with no

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Jul-01-13 8:55 PM

Mr Grosso has been a cherry picker concerning facts since day one. Regardless of the subject at hand he will gladly pull out the points that support his position, but conveniently leave out the points that counter, or nullify his position. He's been complaining about the CAFR for 20 years, then it became public he doesn't understand governmental finance and reporting practices. One would think after reporting people for 20 years someone would have been proven guilty of wrong doing after him reporting them, but no one has to date, which conclusively proves his lack of understanding.

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Jul-01-13 1:00 PM

Onlythenottruth if this is new school then school is out!

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Jul-01-13 12:58 PM

This city administration would like nothing better than the residents to just roll over and take what they continue to shovel down our throats.

Oct 1, 2013 start a 7% Tax on electricity that is not going to solve the problem.

Nov 1, 2013 Fire Assessment Tax that is not going to solve the problem.

Nov i, increase in Real Estate Tax on the property valuation of 7.13% increase.


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Jun-30-13 2:01 PM

I stopped believing in Grosso's facts when he remarked about the city's CAFR'S being parked in his garage in 2008. But when someone reaches his age,what else does he have left but to cause hate,discontent, and dissention. Being sent over across the bridge keeps him out of the mayor's hair,while he's tying to get himself re-elected

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Jun-29-13 9:13 AM

Fact: When ConJob 2020 was voted into existence it was to be a temporary program. Fact: Each acre bought by the program places a greater tax burden onto those held by private parties. Fact: By the very definition land left in its natural state requires no outside input. Any outside input would alter the natural state. Fact: If the goal of ConJob 2020 was to save and protect lands a mechanism would exist that allows private property owners, so inclined, to receive a tax break for not developing their properties yet retain access and ownership. (you’ll need a pseudo-private group like the Sierra Club to assume a Conservation Easement to qualify- read $$$) Fact: Our property tax scheme forces those holding undeveloped land to make it productive in some manner. Fact: This is a line item on our property tax bill that shall never “Sunset”. The real goal was another program replete with government expansion, more taxes, and endless environmental propaganda.

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Jun-29-13 7:37 AM

As previously pointed out, Mr. Grosso never lets FACTS get in the way of his opinions.

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Jun-29-13 12:09 AM

Ms. Bunch, thank you for taking the time to help counter Mr. Grosso's opinionated, incorrect letter. Your facts are right on. Let me add that most of the Blue Ribbon Committee's recommendations have already been implemented as of the Ordinance of June 3. Some of their recommendations were already in effect, such as requiring 2 appraisals for purchases over $500.000. Also, there is no documentation that $30M/year is required to manage and restore 20/20 lands. They currently do it for about $1.5M plus grants. Take that for a fact, Mr. Grosso.

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Jun-28-13 11:13 PM

To anyone who has read Sal's opinions in the past is isn't any surprise to find his statements usually fail to mention the "facts", even after he has been schooled in the facts. It reminds me of the boy crying wolf but this boy never figures it out!

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Jun-28-13 6:11 PM

Ms. Bunch: Thank you for your response to one of the Cape's golden gooses. You will find few conservationists in the Cape. The T-People in the Cape think government steals and wastes money while corporation and builders make the city better.

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Jun-28-13 6:20 AM

You'll have to forgive Mr Grosso, he is old school, and doesn't like to use the "F" word..............fact.

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