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Leadership demands an answer

April 6, 2013

To the editor: As the saying goes, “If one does not learn from history, one is condemned to repeat it....

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BallU73

Apr-12-13 6:52 PM

Everyone should get a chance to speak to our city elected officials. This is America and why do we to agree with everything these ELECTED officials say and do?

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Lolita

Apr-11-13 8:13 AM

Lightswitch.

You totally miss the point. We can reach back in history and name names of all those who have departed this earth to serve our purpose in whatever the argument is. Address the current issue. Do we have to reach so far down to prove a point? No....Just make your point. Others have been removed or asked to leave the podium...end of story. Does it make any issue more important....no.

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lightswitch

Apr-10-13 11:44 PM

Lolita would you rewrite history to be politically correct? See it for what it was the truth. He made history under mayor Butler and Mayor Sullivan. Asked to leave those meetings by both. Why for carrying on after several warnings by both of those mayors.

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onlythetruth

Apr-10-13 6:36 AM

Monchichi, it was agreed upon quite a while back that no political statements would be allowed from the podium, period. Both camps agreed at the time. So, when Mr. Cummings approached the podium he KNEW what he was about to do would be disruptive, as he has been present when others have been warned in the past. You understand now?, it was a lack of good judgement on his part. Or calculated, to get his name in the public realm. Either way, he was fully aware what his actions would create within the chambers. So, regardless of his "tone" it was wrong based on previous agreements made to keep politics away from the podium.

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Lolita

Apr-09-13 5:43 PM

As usual, lightswitch, your bulb dims with your reference to someone no longer with us who served his City well. Whether any agreed with him or not, he should not be included in the diatribe being spewed on this blog. Keep your comments to those who can currently object, not those who are gone.

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lightswitch

Apr-09-13 12:50 PM

I would think by now if this guy Commings is going to run for Mayor/city council he would by now have sense enough to conduct himself in chambers better than he did.

I would think by now he would have a website showing HIS ideas, how he was going to implement them, (probably classified?), and ultimately where the city would be in one year, two ywars and finally three years from the time he took office. Personally I related his antics at the meeting to another person who acted in public much like Cummings, Ralph LePera. Ralph is gone now and I only use his name to make the comparison. He two was out of order and even removed on I believe 2 occasions not just by one mayor! So I await the the platform, the ideas, and the execution timetable. This should be good. Ah and just as a sidebar. I admire the veterans, they many gave much. I have them in my own family as most do but realize while impressive it does not give them automatic entree into a job private or public.

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Monchichi

Apr-08-13 8:35 AM

Kirsten:

The issue at hand is not the content...as anything Vince says will be construed as political at this point. The issue is the subjectivity of the chair...and how he abuses that power. I find it very interesting when Mr. Deile speaks...he is given an open mike to ramble..but the first time this young man takes a stand...he is shut down within the first fifteen seconds. I was there too...and my friends who are truly in the know...were truly impressed by Vince's stature and ability to handle pressure under fire.

Regarding the blame game issue...yes the mayor has only one vote as a policy maker under our form of government. However, the mayor also shares the ceremonial role of the executive as our 'head of state', whose legacy will preside over the years of which he held office. This mayor did not lead by example, doing the right thing for all. Instead, he obstructed everything and trashed our city charter.

I applaud Vince for his remarks...the emperor has no clothes

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Lolita

Apr-07-13 11:28 PM

Kirsten

Small correction. Mr. Cummings never got 3 minutes...Only about 15 seconds then it hit the fan.

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KirstenThompson

Apr-07-13 12:59 PM

Well shoot, I will say what no one else wants to say. There were many in the audience at this meeting who want nothing more that to see Sullivan out of office. Yet, after the meeting, those same people said that Mr. Cumming's comments were inappropriate and that he used his 3 minutes for politicking.

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KirstenThompson

Apr-07-13 12:50 PM

1Sandy, as I said, I seldom agree with the Mayor but your point still does not equate with this entire mess falling in the Mayor's lap. Did he contribute? Yes. But is he solely responsible? No.

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franktruth

Apr-07-13 11:40 AM

Part 2 on Mayors race. Candidate #3 Would be Dan Ashby, who is an actual Veteran (like Cummings) and has been involved helping local vets. My question is...Does Dan know the issues? Where is his city involvement/he serves on no boards or committees and I have yet to run in to him at any Cape Coral clubs, groups or events. What is his platform? So far it seems he is a younger Sullivan, "No new taxes, but no new ideas either". Lastly we have Marni...same thing here, how long in the city, "any" Cape involvement, has she even attended one Council meeting or any Cape Clubs? Earning my vote takes more than filing papers and a facebook page pfft. Cummings best in field so far for Mayor.

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franktruth

Apr-07-13 11:29 AM

Ok lets handicap this Cape Coral 2013 election a bit and discuss the podium issue with Cummings/Sullivan. Cummings did not violate any rules/create a disturbance, he was calling out the Mayor on his lack of action (with his stooge Leetz jumping in with an exact date of when the Mayor last threw Cummings off ready??? Who keeps that info ready. BTW when is Rich Leon gonna start putting some fight against Leetz in this race, don't get me wrong I would vote for a shoehorn before Leetz). Puss n Boots Sullivan has been able to say "no" for 3 1 1/2 yrs hardly qualifies him for a second term. His re-election campaign revolves around buying drinks for actual Veterans, to make up for his no-show in Vietnam. Cummings has education, community involvement, knows the issues, and is an actual Veteran (perfect no, but so far best in the field as I see it). Sullivan's top 3 ideas #1 Outsource the cops to the sherrif #2 Wackenhut the Fire Dept #3 Hire Gary King and then pay him a 17k bonus.

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1sandy

Apr-07-13 9:38 AM

Evidently this blog will not accept links. Please go to the City of Cape Coral website, then to "WATCH" and then click on "City Meetings," then click on "Wednesday, April 03, 2013 City Council Special Meeting" to see for yourself.

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1sandy

Apr-07-13 9:27 AM

@onlythetruth: to repeat false statements about Mr Cummings' demeanor at the podium is truly a sign of a dispicable person with an agenda. Here is the video for all to see and judge what an untruthful person "onlythetruth" is. *******ecape.capecoral****/sirepub/mtgviewer.aspx?meetid=1459&doctype=AGENDA

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Monchichi

Apr-07-13 8:44 AM

Truth:

Let me be clear again..I was there in the audience. Vince introduced himself, began making a statement, and was rudely struck down by the mayor. Never once did he lose his cool or composure or act in any disrespectful manner. The one thing he did was mainly remain silent and in control of the situation. After again reading the Cape Coral City Council Rules Of Procedures & Robert's Rules of Order, I did not see any violations. Just as your handle says...I guess your truth is relevant to you.

On the flag issue...have u no shame? Many of Vince's generation earned the right to speak in Iraq, have a political voice that is coming of age, and represent a threat to the mayor and his cohorts.

For someone such as the mayor, who refuses to answer questions about his lack of military service, but patronizes veterans groups for votes, shows the lack of integrity AND poor judgment on his part.

Why not hold the mayor accountable?

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onlythetruth

Apr-07-13 7:47 AM

Monchichi, I suggest you do not try to whitewash poor behavior under the guise the Man is untouchable due to his service to our Great Country. I appreciate his service, as I do all others who serve, but that does not exonerate him, or anyone else from poor behavior, period. In fact, his standards for decorum should be higher due to his service. So, don't try to wrap him in the flag to protect him from his own poor judgement. He could have stood outside the council building and held a news conference to announce his views in place of what he did so disrespectfully in chambers.

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Bobster

Apr-07-13 7:22 AM

Vince seems like a nice young man with the perfect background for dealing with city matters. I think the City Council meeting was a great example of way it is a time for a change in city government.

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Monchichi

Apr-06-13 10:54 PM

Troth/Onlythetruth:

I suggest you be very careful in how you criticize the military service of Mr.Cummings. He does practice what he preaches...everyday to be exact.

In his part time status with the Army, he serves an elite reserve civil affairs/special operations unit, that conducts real world missions in Latin America. He not only provides spiritual support to soldiers...but is also trained to do engagement with foreign clerics...sustaining political relationships with our allies.

On a regular basis, he works in special duty status for the Army, providing military funeral honors for the families of deceased soldiers. Vince presents the flag or presides over funerals of deceased soldiers, from WWII to the present,at our national cemeteries here in FL.

Vince has given his entire adult life in service to our nation. Between his character, education & experience, he is most qualified to be our next mayor.

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BallU73

Apr-06-13 6:04 PM

I saw on Cape Coral TV (City Government Channel) a mayor and a city councilman who would not let a public speaker complete his comments in the public comment segment. I guess it goes to show that there is no other opinion than their own opinion. This is probably why the opinion of the mayor is so low. Vince Cummings should not been treated so badly by these elected officials.

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onlythetruth

Apr-06-13 6:02 PM

1Sandy it appears you are willing to maniacally grasp onto anyone who appears to be against the remnants of the Fab 5. That is no way to measure a candidate's ability to do the job to which he/she is running for. Let's hear his ideas, then maybe a majority of us "voters" will get behind the man. Until then he is acting no differently than the individual he is seeking to unseat. Two wrongs do not make a right.

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1sandy

Apr-06-13 5:58 PM

@CapeCoralCuestions: For the sake of clarity, "boisterous or disruptive" is truly in the eye of the beholder. Definition of "boisterous or disruptive." Loud, noisy, and lacking in restraint or discipline. I watched and heard no such thing and neither did anyone else. The Mayor was loud and disruptive because Cummings had couageously came forward and exposed him and rightfuly laid blame at the feet of the highest elected official. Obviously YOU did not like what you heard and YOU should take a second look at the video of the proceedings again. At no time was Cummings loud nor was he boisterous, so again I ask, where is the violation of Council rules? And if revealing the culprit in the scheme of ignoring City infrastructure for the last 3 budgets is NOT City business, YOU don't know what City business is.(All Caps by me for emphasis)

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onlythetruth

Apr-06-13 5:57 PM

Monchichi, A Chaplan? Really? I suppose he had better start practicing what he preaches.

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Monchichi

Apr-06-13 5:44 PM

Instead of tearing Mr. Cummings down....we should raise him up...for having the courage to tell the truth no one had the courage to speak. I was there...and was ashamed of the unethical misconduct shown by the Mayor and CM Leetz...but not surprised by their behavior.

What many not know about Vince...is that he has the background and training necessary to lead our city. This man is a commissioned officer in the Army Reserve, a combat veteran who still serves as a chaplain in his 24th year of service, and has five academic degrees. What candidate has that background?

Most importantly, he holds a Master Of Public Administration degree, and walked away from a bright future in public management, to pursue being mayor of his hometown. Vince could easily be the CM with his academic and leadership training...but he chose to serve in another way.

Vince has ideas...he is just separating himself from the amateurs in the race. I am sure will be letting us know where he stands very soon

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1sandy

Apr-06-13 5:43 PM

@onlythetruth: It is truly amusng that on this papers blog you go back to 2009 and relate "Msark Mason & Terry Stewart history of your percieved shortfalls without solutions but if anyone else does, it is wrong. Can you say hypocrisy?

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1sandy

Apr-06-13 5:32 PM

@KirstenThompson: Where I disagree with you was in the final analysis, after the CM had presented the demise of the infrastructure and it's negative effect on the Cape, this Mayor voted NOT to bail out infrastructure, without giving any solutions to the debacle from the dais. Now if you think that perpetuating a known infrastructure problem is not blame worthy, then we will agree to disagree. He has never, in the 3 and half years as Mayor, ever stood up and said, this is wrong. If that is acceptable to you, so be it.

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